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I now see the truth.

I went to TT. All negative Wagglepop Bashing. Maybe they are the cult. They even single out members and insult them.

I was already told not to post on this thread if I didn't like how negative it was. Maybe the TT people are the ones that don't like freedom of speech.

I am very disappointed to read all the insults and name-calling directed at anyone that has posted here in support of Wagglepop. The TT board is even worse.

This PSU, and it is suppose to be about people trying to find another venue other than ebay. All the negative posters here have stated their facts, lies and slanders. Do you stalk this board just to bring it up again and again. I have read some of the 300 + pages at your TT board and am seeing it's a joint plan. (This is only one Topic by the way)

Maybe if you were going to be this vindictive you should have revealed your facts, plan and hate of Wagglepop before (July, 17th 2006).

Sellers that are there now investeted 1000s of hours on their stores. Some are very successful. Some are not, but are giving this venue a chance.

I have had bad experiences on many sites, I don't bring them up over and over again. I could go on and on about Ebay an Yahoo and HiBidder and more FREE sites.

What do they give me for my $10 a month? They give me a venue to list on. They gave me a store to lay out nicely. They tell me what my selling fee will be immediately if I sell the item. I am allowed to upload one picture with my listing for NO FEE. I am allowed to list an item in my store for NO FEE. They are continually improving things each month. They are very helpful and have GREAT customer Support. This is the truth and is fact.

BTW. The customers that bought from me had no problem paying and that part of WP is going to be improved soon.


All I can figure out is that the TT group here must be threated by Ebay.

Happy New year everyone! Good luck on your selling venues where ever they may be.

John

u1it4less wrote (View Post): › My response PM to Angelsong777 to here PM to me on TT, Sent to: PowerSeller on: December 20, 2006, 06:49:51 PM » Quote Reply Remove -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, No powerseller until there is a way to check completed listings the only sales that can be considered credible are the ones you can check through feedback. Look I said nothing in that post to discredit any of those sales either as I could if I wanted to. For example your account based on feedback shows a transaction for a coupon at a price of $.01 for 10% off the next item. Do you really think that $.01 item is worthy of being counted as a sale and also worth a feedback as well? Powerseller I have no problem with you or any seller on WP really. In fact I find you a great asset to TT and wish you would stay on the forum here at TT rather then stay away for almost a year. I think it is great to have a forum to discuss these issues without being censored don't you? If you decide to come back to post in the forum before hand I will not poke fun at you however some may. If they do I will defend your decision to post again there is no reason why you shouldn't. We see things differently and that is fine. I also hope you truely are working on your own website. 07' should be a great year for people that have there own place on the net. Sorry if I have gone on too long in this PM but feel free to PM me anytime. I don't hate you in anyway as a matter of fact you seem to be a smart business person and a great buyer. Yes I saw your recent purchases way to go and good for you! Rosebud said we should tell the whole truth. The above was my only PM to powerseller/Angelsong777 and it was a reply. u1it4less truth

If anyone answers yes to all of the following:

a) My mortgage company only accepts auction site feedback as payment.

b) I don't like to ask buyers for feedback.

c) I will come apart at the seams if I have buyers who are new to purchasing from auction sites and don't automatically know to leave feedback.

If all of the above statements apply to you, then you might be better off not selling on Wagglepop.

RoseBud wrote (View Post): › Designers Bargains I did state the truth I did not try to cover up anything. I said they would have to re-register with a new ID. Why your ID is tied to the store I'm not sure. Is is something they will change down the line I can't say. But to hear you tell it you make it sound like if someone closes their store that's it they can't get back on the site forever it's very misleading. Not the whole truth.

Listen with your good ear. DS stated that the drawback was starting over, losing all your feedback and what recognition you had gained from that initial ID. Not that you couldn't get back in - but that you couldn't continue with the reputation you had already worked at establishing. Your slate is wiped clean and you have to start as a newborn. RIDICULOUS!!

Quote: › u1it4less you talk about telling the whole truth also your always say you can't ask questions on WP. Yes you can ask questions and they get answered quickly I might add.

Adult male bovine excretment!! They are only answered if you play the WP game. You fawn and grovel as you ask for the next blessing. But if you ask a pointed business question that does not conform to the constantly fluctuating boundaries of propriety dictated by Karay, you are ex-communicated.

Quote: › What they don't want is people harassing on the boards. Personally I don't blame them.

I don't blame them either but we have been mislabeled, presented to you and the other sheep as instigators, infiltrators and you have faithfully embraced this opinion.

Quote: › From the start there has been a group of people who went to the boards there with no other purpose than to cause trouble. When WP first launched they all had bets as to how long it would last. They wanted it to fail and they were going to help make that happened with out giving it a chance and that's the bottom line.

Lady, you wouldn't recognize the bottom line if it keel-hauled you and dragged you over a bed of popping hot coals. From the start??? A group of people??? Poppycock. There was little criticism of WP2 until sellers started leaving or were forced to leave, for various reasons, in the past couple of months. We've since found a new home to share our experience and express our frustration and our numbers are growing faster than the number of new sellers adopting WP as their selling venue. And that is what is scaring you silly.

Quote: › It would not have mattered what answer WP or any seller gave them their purpose was to make the site look bad. I know I have read this in another forum.

Yep guilty as charged because we learned the hard way what WP is all about. And we know you faithfully read that other forum. Why? If you don't agree with us why do you give us the time of day?

Quote: › They actually planned some of the things they were going to do in a forum that anyone can read.

Bull-roar. I challenge you to support this statement. Planned what?? We can speak freely there and although you and others dropped in and were welcomed, it wasn't by invitation.

Quote: › Also from what I've seen you post elsewhere you verge on being a stalker if you ask me. Even some of the people on that forum told you that and had to tell you to cool it. So yes lets tell the whole truth.

Back off this tangent real quick. You are walking on quicksand. Did Truth respond of our comments of concern with grandiose statements of "it's my website, it's my opinion, it's my story and you can't tell me what to do or what to think?" Ray would have. Have you detected any animosity projected towards Truth to date? Can you believe that we all respect him for the heartfelt passion that makes him so special? Well you better.

Quote: › As far as the stricter registration process again this is due to the amount of problems this group was causing. What do you expect a site to do when you constantly harrass them. Keep coming back with different ID to to keep it up and going as far as getting a masking ID to come back and do it over again. This was also talked about openly in another forum. They have every right to show you the door and try to protect their business and the sellers who use their venue from this.

Utter, unadulterated crapola. WP forum is not the platform to speak to you people. Can't be bothered to try. A couple of posters talked of signing in with different IDs and now we are all labeled as doing this? What drama. It is more prudent and a better use of our typing skills if we can meet in an uncensored environment - but you've already discovered that. That's why you are here and posting on TT as well.[/quote]

Quote: › Also this cult thing is getting old it's ridiculous. Once again lableing and name calling. I have to laugh because I read on another forum someone posted about the sellers at WP posting in the breakfest thread saying they are not real business people and have nothing better to do with their time. I think that's the pot calling the kettle black don't ya think seems to me that these people posting this have nothing better to do with their time and many of their post are far from business like.

This is a case of - the truth hurts. Check history, check case studies. Most cult members are not aware of nor do they acknowledge being under the influence until they are removed from the environment. Hey I preferred calling you the Borg collective. Is that more preferable to your sensitivities?

Quote: › Once again I'm not a member of any cult I'm not stupid (oh yes some of you have even said WP sellers are stupid).

Please point out the post(s) where you were called stupid. I'll look into it on your behalf as this would be a point in your favour. What I've read is support and sympathy for the dedicated sellers on WP. Sure some of your comments from the boards have been lampooned; some of mine were too, but the essence of our indignation is not aimed at the sellers. Our target is Ray and what he is leading you all to believe. His truth is not THE truth.

Quote: › I'm just posting to give my opinion on the site which is so far I like it. Others may not and that's fine with me. I just wish others would have a little more respect for other peoples choices and not resort to such nonsense. It really makes you look bad in my opinion. There is a cival way to agree to disagree.

I hope you find my way to disagree as civil. If you don't, well so be it. You can't do much about it in this arena.

u1it4less that's all well and good I see in your reply to her that you show more courtesy than you and others at TT do in the post there. I've also seen others show some courtesy on TT but only if they think the seller might be leaving WP or if they think they can talk the seller into leaving WP. If not it's back to the name calling and labeling. You know that you were posting personal info. about the owner of WP and the others on the site had to tell you to cool it.

My whole point here is only this. I like WP it works for me. You don't that's fine. But I do not like being labeled. Am I calling anyone stupid because they don't join WP no I wouldn't do that. Please don't deny that you and others at TT have made fun of and labeled the sellers at WP. I would respect and maybe even take some of what was said more seriously if that type of stuff wasn't said. But it has been so therefore like I said before in my eyes there is no credibility there. Not to mention that there are too many half truths being stated. Only half the story being told not the whole truth.

mojavelyn wrote (View Post): › Crystal, if the shell fits...!

I was gonna go south there but decided I better not.

BTW Squirrels like nuts!! Are ya feeling a little squirrely???

Quote: › Listen with your good ear. DS stated that the drawback was starting over, losing all your feedback and what recognition you had gained from that initial ID. Not that you couldn't get back in - but that you couldn't continue with the reputation you had already worked at establishing. Your slate is wiped clean and you have to start as a newborn. RIDICULOUS!!

Go back and read her first statement about it she left out the part that that they could re-register and still buy on the site. Making it sound like they can't get back on forever. It's been stated the same way on TT. Not all the facts only part of them I am listening believe me. Believe me I can understand what I read.

Quote: › Bull-roar. I challenge you to support this statement. Planned what?? We can speak freely there and although you and others dropped in and were welcomed, it wasn't by invitation.

Oh please go back and read the thread yourself I don't have time to go back and copy and paste post from that thread I have a life. You know that there are many post in there talking about going over to ruffle feathers and you know someone posted a link to a site where the ones who were kicked off for causing trouble could go get a masking IP's to go back and cause more trouble.

Quote: › Lady, you wouldn't recognize the bottom line if it keel-hauled you and dragged you over a bed of popping hot coals. From the start??? A group of people??? Poppycock. There was little criticism of WP2 until sellers started leaving or were forced to leave, for various reasons, in the past couple of months. We've since found a new home to share our experience and express our frustration and our numbers are growing faster than the number of new sellers adopting WP as their selling venue. And that is what is scaring you silly.

Oh please they started as soon as WP launched. Anyone that goes back and reads can see this. I'm not scared of anything. I just really love how you assume so many things you know what they say happens when you assume. That's it for me tonight go back and read and you'll see.

edited because I put masking ID's instead of masking IP's

sherrand wrote (View Post): › Please point out the post(s) where you were called stupid. I'll look into it on your behalf as this would be a point in your favour. What I've read is support and sympathy for the dedicated sellers on WP.

I bet I can find dozens of posts on TT where I was called stupid and other names, many of which ocurred long before I ever posted there.

GAELICTITCA wrote (View Post): › Aw, geeeez........ Are you guys *STILL* at it??? Y'all ain't whipped this dead horse into a pulp yet? Don't any of you have stores / sites you could be working on??? LOL..........

I DO have a lot of work that needs working on, but my family and I are sick with the flu. I don't want to try to work on anything important when my brain is so disconnected. I'll try to be much more productive tomorrow if I can.

wow. and i thought gael said he speaks clear and does not hold his tongue.... if he was he would speak just as JOHNS resale has done... just another trying to cover up to BELONG....

johns resale and rose and angel are the ones who speaks with principle... i was waiting to see if gael would.. and he instead showed going against his principle he speaks of.. not holding his tongue.... speaking true and clear..

anyone with a lick of sense KNOWS how horrible the tt people are doing... and gael DOES too... just another person who covers up just to belong to a group sad to say...

so angels rose and johns resale and a couple more earlier i saw are ones with truth and principle!!

saturn wrote (View Post): › wow. and i thought gael said he speaks clear and does not hold his tongue.... if he was he would speak just as JOHNS resale has done... just another trying to cover up to BELONG.... johns resale and rose and angel are the ones who speaks with principle... i was waiting to see if gael would.. and he instead showed going against his principle he speaks of.. not holding his tongue.... speaking true and clear.. anyone with a lick of sense KNOWS how horrible the tt people are doing... and gael DOES too... just another person who covers up just to belong to a group sad to say... so angels rose and johns resale and a couple more earlier i saw are ones with truth and principle!!

Actually, I have seen only wonderful posts from Gael both here and elsewhere.

here is the REAL post about all this.... and speaks volumns about how gael is going against what eh says speaking truths..... gael really knows this as true if he trys to reason all this about tt but many people will NOT try to reason out an issue IF it hurts their need to belong toa group as i see what gael may be doing.....

johnsreasale hits the nail on the ehad about this group.. and its amazing how a site forum bans some but puts up with the mother of all uglyness that tt people does!!

I now see the truth.

I went to TT. All negative Wagglepop Bashing. Maybe they are the cult. They even single out members and insult them.

I was already told not to post on this thread if I didn't like how negative it was. Maybe the TT people are the ones that don't like freedom of speech.

I am very disappointed to read all the insults and name-calling directed at anyone that has posted here in support of Wagglepop. The TT board is even worse.

This PSU, and it is suppose to be about people trying to find another venue other than ebay. All the negative posters here have stated their facts, lies and slanders. Do you stalk this board just to bring it up again and again. I have read some of the 300 + pages at your TT board and am seeing it's a joint plan. (This is only one Topic by the way)

Maybe if you were going to be this vindictive you should have revealed your facts, plan and hate of Wagglepop before (July, 17th 2006).

Sellers that are there now investeted 1000s of hours on their stores. Some are very successful. Some are not, but are giving this venue a chance.

I have had bad experiences on many sites, I don't bring them up over and over again. I could go on and on about Ebay an Yahoo and HiBidder and more FREE sites.

What do they give me for my $10 a month? They give me a venue to list on. They gave me a store to lay out nicely. They tell me what my selling fee will be immediately if I sell the item. I am allowed to upload one picture with my listing for NO FEE. I am allowed to list an item in my store for NO FEE. They are continually improving things each month. They are very helpful and have GREAT customer Support. This is the truth and is fact.

BTW. The customers that bought from me had no problem paying and that part of WP is going to be improved soon.


All I can figure out is that the TT group here must be threated by Ebay.

Happy New year everyone! Good luck on your selling venues where ever they may be.

John

saturn wrote (View Post): › wow. and i thought gael said he speaks clear and does not hold his tongue.... if he was he would speak just as JOHNS resale has done... just another trying to cover up to BELONG....

Huh?..... WTF??

saturn wrote (View Post): › johns resale and rose and angel are the ones who speaks with principle... i was waiting to see if gael would.. and he instead showed going against his principle he speaks of.. not holding his tongue.... speaking true and clear..

LOL..... ok, I'll bite.... what in the hell are you babbling about???

saturn wrote (View Post): › anyone with a lick of sense KNOWS how horrible the tt people are doing... and gael DOES too... just another person who covers up just to belong to a group sad to say...

The "tt people"?? Who the hell are the "tt people"??

saturn wrote (View Post): › so angels rose and johns resale and a couple more earlier i saw are ones with truth and principle!!

Saturn, I haven't the foggiest idea of what you're talking about in your
post --- but I suggest you weigh your words more carefully before you try
to sling any accusations of anything my way.