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Rancher



Joined: 27 Mar 2010
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:34 am    Post subject: Is blujay about to fold and is making one last gasp TRY?  

last yr wagglepop folded. MY prediction for this years fold is blujay.
what i see happnening there now is one last ditch effort after making so little effort over the last couple yrs which has let others build better and faster and go past them..

BUT what i see from this new effort is when one problem is fixed while fixing that they break something else and make another problem.

and this will get them NO where and others will pass them while doing their effort and then they will just give UP.
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gooddealsbooks



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: Is blujay about to fold and is making one last gasp TRY?  

Rancher wrote (View Post): › docWrite("quote")last yr wagglepop folded. MY prediction for this years fold is blujay.
what i see happnening there now is one last ditch effort after making so little effort over the last couple yrs which has let others build better and faster and go past them..

BUT what i see from this new effort is when one problem is fixed while fixing that they break something else and make another problem.

and this will get them NO where and others will pass them while doing their effort and then they will just give UP.

you know you need more facts when saying stuff like that
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Rancher



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:43 am    Post subject:  

what are the facts to make one make this prediction..

blujay started before ecrater and was way ahead .. ecrater caught and now is so far ahead no way blujay could ever catch up..

and bonanzle came and has gone way ahead also... highware is closing in fast and soon will go ahead .... atomicmall has caught blujay and about to pass also..

how did blujay let all these pass them so strongly?? a decision made to do nothing... now they see they have about lost it all and are working it BUT that also is a decison making act.. it is showing their effort is when fixing one problem they break something and create another problem... so they are not catching up at all but still falling back..

THIS is why i see them giving up and soon folding cause nothing now they can do especially after showing how when they make an effort many times they break something else like when they got the items in google they caused big problems with having all the items listed as USED..
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hblt46



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:31 am    Post subject:  

Rancher wrote (View Post): › docWrite("quote") when they got the items in google they caused big problems with having all the items listed as USED..

One of Googles rules is that of the many possible attributes that can be used, the attribute of 'condition' is mandatory. The seller has to state if the item is new, refurbished, or used.

I believe that all the sites list the items as used when sending the feed to google, at least the three I list on do.

Unless the owner of each site plans to make a trip to every one of their members homes to inspect all the items, they have no way of knowing the condition. They state the item as 'used' and it's up to each seller to change it to 'new' if needed.
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hblt46



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:43 am    Post subject:  

Rancher wrote (View Post): › docWrite("quote")
highware is closing in fast and soon will go ahead .... atomicmall has caught blujay and about to pass also..


Where are you getting your numbers from? As of 11:40pst, March 29th, the PSU charts show:

Blujay - 722,727
BISI/Hirewire - 425,333
Atomic Mall - 264,612

You need a bigger spoon Rancher.
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Rancher



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject:  

look at alexa.com.... look at the full yr for blujay.. shows NO growth in reach traffic... alexa shows ecraters has exploded upwards as well as bonanzle... shows atomic mall with only 250 k listed as catching blujay and about to pass..

showing blujay with 700k items would only show how little traffic they have per listing but most likely that number is bogus and many many store owners are gone and their items are still there and when buyers try to buy no one is home and they go off and spread the bad news about blujay causing more and more problems for blujay.

there is just so much of the alt sites PIE for sellers to use and make money.. there now are just too many ahead and locked in to take whats in the pie .. I think wagglepop saw that and folded and blujay most likely will see this from their last ditch effort and seeing they are getting no where..

blujay themselves BROKE this.. first doing nothing for 2 yrs and now trying but still breaking things as they try.. even without their incorrect decision making that they have.... a history of doing they still cannot catch up with those that has passed.. the ones that has passed has some good thinking admins whereas blujay has a history of the opposite.

so i predict they will lose the hope that they once had and fold within a yr
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Rancher



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject:  

and the problem with blujay they had no way for the sellers to CHANGE the condition from used... the others had that.. so it was a blunder in comparison to the other sites.


finally blujay got that set up where they could after alot of hollaring and nearly 2 months.. again the others had it set up way before blujay the condition for the sellers to change if they want to
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gooddealsbooks



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Is blujay about to fold and is making one last gasp TRY?  

AM and BISI have fees where blujay does not. This is just one person's thoughts. I don't see blujay going anywhere soon.

When you are free to sell things on. Look at all you get for free. I think it's a pretty good trade off.

Anyways back to work
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Rancher



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:41 pm    Post subject:  

alternatives since there is just a small amount of sales that can come from this pie.. they must be very wise or have a niche..

the history of blujay is one of the lowest in good decision making AND ecrater which is a free site has already sewed up the FREE site NICHE.. so blujay really has no place to go but downwards.

when buyers go to shop at google they will always see better placement with ecrater items than blujay and both are free so blujay cannot crack THAT.. blujay cannot be used to shop at over ecrater either since ecrater has so many more items to choose from... and sellers will see this difference and will NOT leave ecrater for blujay.... BUT the sellers at blujay WILL leave blujay for ecrater..
the handwriting is CLEARLY on the wall here there is no place for blujay to go but down as long as there is the FREE ecrater....

both bonanzle and atomicmall shows alot better decision making so blujay cannot build from them.. if ones that do leave bonanzle or atomicmall they would go to ecrater..

there really is no hope at blujay.. many many sites like this has folded and the cause of the folding is not rocket science
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Rancher



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject:  

also free is NOT free IF there is so many problems that it takes up TIME... cause time is money... and if there is pain also with the problems that also is factured in by the wise sellers...

with blujays fixing problems in a very slow manner and at the same time tearing up something else while fixing.. this will only add to the downward spiral.

someone said am has fees .. well a fee site catching up to a non fee site like blujay shows AGAIN big problems for the future of blujay.. and look at the other FEE site exploded past blujay.. bonanzle..

the FREE site is ecrater .

its like etsy and handmade goods etsy has sewed this up if another handmade goods site was going on they would also FOLD cause etsy will get THIS niche


same as when ebay sewed up the auction site niche..

so blujay has no where to go but down..
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gooddealsbooks



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Is blujay about to fold and is making one last gasp TRY?  

Things are easier to find on blujay since there is more sub categories and such for shoppers to find what it is they are looking for. I say use both sites since you got nothing to lose.
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mojavelyn



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject:  

Unless you actually study and record the changes on a daily basis at alexa, quantcast, and compete together, just going in and doing a 1 shot reading is really meaningless, even if you look at the past year in the graphs.

Using one traffic reporter like alexa in and of itself is useless. Alexa and Compete record traffic from toolbars. Not everyone has the toolbars. Alexa does have a widget to place on the website tho.

And its not unusual for a site to have a sluggish period.

So I think your prediction is meaningless. There is a saying... its not over till the fat lady sings... So until Blujay pulls the plug... it not over.
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Rancher



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject:  

i have studied all 3 .. and all 3 shows very similar..

not a one shot look

with alexa its more up to date with the current month compete and quantcast is a month behind..

they all show the up ticks when one gets their items in google like blujay has recently but they all show EVEN with this uptick that over a yrs time blujay has not grown..

this showing no growth with reach visitors over a yr when the listing shows a growth of 200 k that in itself shows big problems .. either alot less visits per item or bogus items listed.. where sellers have left the site and left their items there and buyers come thru and trys to buy and leaves disgusted to tell others,,

all the facts are THERE for a fold .. sites folding is NOT rocket science..

again the free site like blujay will suck up alot more blujay sellers than vice versa which will keep blujay going downwards..

in chess there s a thing called checkmate... some can see what makes the checkmate before it happens ... this is the very same in every part of life or selling .. saying its not over til its over is funny stuff with yogi berra but NOT true..
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mojavelyn



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject:  

I think you are trying to fear monger. Blujay actually looks to be in an upswing trend according to all 3.

And just looking at Compete and Alexa shows their traffic is UP. Quantcast is only estimiated.

Now will it regain the momentum it had prior to the ecomony crash, who knows??

But I think your statements of it folding are unfounded.
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dogger



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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject:  

GJ?
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