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pie4himm



Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:59 pm    Post subject: how does eCrater make a profit?  

does anybody have a copy of the eCrater business plan?..I am perplexed as to how they can stay in business without charging seller fees?...I see no advertising on their web pages either , so just wondering if the website is only used for tax write-off purposes by it's owners? just saying..
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pie4himm



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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject:  

In the span of 5 days, I ordered two different Wii systems from two different sellers/stores from ecrater.com I never received any product and when I contacted ecrater to file a complaint, they told me that neither seller nor store was an ecrater seller/store. However, I can still go to one of the sellers on ecrater. Instead of backing the sellers/stores, they pass the buck. So by saying that the seller is no longer there, they are allowing anyone to post a sale, take the money, and walk away from ecrater with no accountability. I will NEVER shop ecrater again and I will pass on my fraudulent transactions everywhere I can.
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lightning_lash



Joined: 22 Jul 2006
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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject: Re: how does eCrater make a profit?  

I'm pretty sure that the man who started ecrater has a day job. From some of his posts he seems to be an engineer in the computer or electronics field.

As far as making money off of ecrater he does sell the featured spot on the front of the web site and in addition there is some adsense type advertising. I doubt he makes a lot of money off the site, but I always figured that his long term plan was to the sell ecrater once it was large enough.

All of the above is my opinion.

If you paid with your credit card just do a charge back. I always use my visa when I buy anything off of the web.
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elpereles



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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: how does eCrater make a profit?  

I don't understand your original post and 2nd. Are you interesting to know if eCrater make some profit or are you worry because there is an empty store in the site? :roll:

PD
If I going to buy a item with a value more than $50. I will contact first the seller before sending my money.

Also in eCrater you can see in the left lower corner the last date that the store was updated. If a store was updated months ago I will not buy it now from that seller. I will 1rst send an e-mail.
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portocall



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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:32 am    Post subject: Re: how does eCrater make a profit?  

eCrater was originally started to be a "tool" for sellers who wanted to set up an individual store, but didn't want a website of their own. Although buyers can go to the eCrater homepage and search for items and stores, the main focus was/is to get the buyer to the individual stores, so the main eCrater home site is really downplayed as a destination for buyers to go. That's why you often read about eCrater sellers promoting their own store at the site, rather than the eCrater site itself. Even the link that gets you back to the main site are downplayed on the item page and seller's homepage.

There is a "community" of sellers at eCrater, but maybe not like some other sites. Sellers were/are encouraged to run their own business within reason and certain rules. All and all I think most problems are dealt with.

As for how they make money, I've heard they must get some revenue from the ads and links that you see on the site (when you do a search). I recall reading that this was the plan (using ads for revenue) from the beginning.

I sell a couple of items a week at eCrater and with no fees at all, everything goes in my pocket - and that is nice 8)
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BigT



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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:47 am    Post subject:  

pie4himm wrote (View Post): › docWrite("quote")In the span of 5 days, I ordered two different Wii systems from two different sellers/stores from ecrater.com I never received any product and when I contacted ecrater to file a complaint, they told me that neither seller nor store was an ecrater seller/store. However, I can still go to one of the sellers on ecrater. Instead of backing the sellers/stores, they pass the buck. So by saying that the seller is no longer there, they are allowing anyone to post a sale, take the money, and walk away from ecrater with no accountability. I will NEVER shop ecrater again and I will pass on my fraudulent transactions everywhere I can.
Give them the link ... since you can "still go to one of the sellers on ecrater"

ecrater is NOT responsible. IT is a venue. Just like you newspaper isn't responsible for the classified ads printed in it.

They will HELP you get ahold of the seller BUT need the details from you, order number, name as it is on the order, seller name (not the paymetn name), any details you can give them.
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BigT



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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: how does eCrater make a profit?  

portocall wrote (View Post): › docWrite("quote")eCrater was originally started to be a "tool" for sellers who wanted to set up an individual store, but didn't want a website of their own.
WHERE do you get this information??
IT's not true.

I been selling on ecrater since the beginning, almost. It started in 10/2004 and I started 3/2005.
Quote: › docWrite("quote")As for how they make money, I've heard they must get some revenue from the ads and links that you see on the site (when you do a search). I recall reading that this was the plan (using ads for revenue) from the beginning.

Google adsense statrted about 3 years go (time flies so it might be longer). The ads are not in stores that meet the criteria.
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BigT



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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: how does eCrater make a profit?  

elpereles wrote (View Post): › docWrite("quote")I don't understand your original post and 2nd. Are you interesting to know if eCrater make some profit or are you worry because there is an empty store in the site? :roll:


I agree. I don't understand. Does the poster want to rip the site
or do they want to sell there?

What business do you know of that hands out their business plan ... unless they want to borrow money from you.

If you want to know the history of the site ... how it started etc it's posted in teh ecrater community in the FAQ section.
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elpereles



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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: how does eCrater make a profit?  

I don't have problem to be a critic of eCrater or any marketplace, but we need to understand that the marketplace isn't responsible if the seller just was using it has a parking lot.

Like I said some months ago in a post. I tried to buy in the "Alternatives" many items, but only manage to complete only 1 transaction in all this time because I prefer to send an e-mail that send my money to the unknown.

About high value electronics items or any item more than $50. My recommendation is always check all the store, info of the seller, and contact she/he before buying.

pie4himm, in the past months, I decide to participate in the eCrater Forums and believe me. There is a lot of "new sellers" coming from the unknown asking "how to make sales", get traffic, opinions about their stores, etc. More than 50% of these "new sellers" in less than a month even in just days close their stores or leave them.

Just ask to Big T.

Also I will be nice if you post the link to see the store. :wink:
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portocall



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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:49 pm    Post subject:  

bigT

WHERE did I get the information - off the ecrater site. It bills itself as a "web store builder"

I don't understand your post bigT - huh?
You say that my post is untrue - how?
And you give no other information about the site or it's beginnings - even though you were there. If I have the wrong information, please let us know what the truth is.

I didn't say that I knew it all - I said that I read what I wrote. To be more specific - I read it on the ecrater site and message boards.

I guess I must have come off as an ecrater expert or something - sorry.
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BigT



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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:27 am    Post subject:  

portocall wrote (View Post): › docWrite("quote")And you give no other information about the site or it's beginnings - even though you were there. If I have the wrong information, please let us know what the truth is.


I posted ...
If you want to know the history of the site ... how it started etc it's posted in the ecrater community in the FAQ section. = http://community.ecrater.com/viewtopic.php?t=10199


eCRATER is both a free web store builder and an online marketplace.
web store ... means a store on the ecrater site
Sorry, I don't see that as the same as
eCrater was originally started to be a "tool" for sellers who wanted to set up an individual store, but didn't want a website of their own
BUT I guess you can say that.
IT's a store .. not a tool.
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Digmen1



Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:53 pm    Post subject:  

Anyway,
ecrater does seem to be adding regular numbers of new listings.
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Jerryb



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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: how does eCrater make a profit?  

I like Ecrater a lot. It has a lot to offer and it is free. I closed my older ecrater store down and am in process of restocking a new one. So a lot of active daily update sellers on Ecrater but i am sure a few deadbeats are there too as at any site especially free ones. Perhaps try contacting email and phone if high value - before purchasing and if you use paypal you are of course covered mostly.
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