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CrystalViewChemicals · Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 10

Hey Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am Jonathan Simons with Crystal View Chemicals and we are a manufacturer. I found this form to target in having people like yourselves using ebay to have the possibility of selling our product line. We were the first company to come out with the headlight restoration kit www.MyHeadlight.com If you can please visit our website when you get a chance at www.NanoDiamondShield.com for an indepth look at our newest product to hit the market. Looking for people who can help sell our product and to expand our footprint as currently no one is selling our item on ebay since its brand new to the market. Any advice would be appreciated. I am glad I found this forum!

Jonathan

thegolfingdolphin · Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 695

Jonathan, let me ask you this question. I have seen this process work a few times and it does a very good job for a very short amount of time. Basically the product that I have seen used needed to be redone in a couple months. How long does your product hold the new look?
Do you guarantee a time frame?

CrystalViewChemicals · Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 10

Hey golfing,

Which kit have you used for headlight restoration?? Our kit utilizes a different sealant than any of the competitors on the market. 3m, mothers, meguiars all followed us after we launched the Headlight Restoration kit. With their product yes you will get a few months maybe a year and a half if your lucky. With our product you will get AT LEAST 7 years, also we provide a lifetime warranty on our product. Our product also comes with all the necessary components needed, so you dont have to go out and buy a drill or buy sand paper, everything is included.

thegolfingdolphin · Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 695

To be quite honest I have not used any of them, but I have talked to a Certified repair person who does this in his shop and he told me about 2 years ago, that although it works well, it just needs to be done after a few months. I assume the product field as progressed and gotten better. I appreciate your reply, and I did look at all your videos.

CrystalViewChemicals · Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 10

Your certified repair man is probably using a different company. That is not true that it needs to be done every few months. If you follow our instructions which are very easy, then you will have atleast 7 years of no hazing or yellow substance. He could have used a 3m, meguiars, turtle wax product. They will need to be applied every few months which is why in advance auto parts we outsell the competitors 4:1 on the shelf with our headlight restoration

With this new Nano Diamond Shield, the wax sales will start falling. This will replace most waxes and the only people whom will continue to apply wax on their vehicles are the car enthusiasts.

thegolfingdolphin · Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 695

Yes I am sure it was a different product and I assume the words we talked about having to redo it after a few months was the wax. He did not elaborate about how it was done, so what you have told me makes sense.

Let me ask you this questions. Why can't you just market this yourself on eBay? You already seem to have excellent verbal skills in your videos, the presentation is outstanding. It would not take you very long to make a few listing complete with flash video.

Are you looking for wholesale accounts? Would you be offering local protected territories? Have you participated in trade shows to get your product sold worldwide? Have you considered licensing your product?

CrystalViewChemicals · Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 10

Definately looking for wholesale accounts, currently the headlight restoration is sold in advance auto and walmart. But looking for some wholesale accounts on our Nano-Diamond Shield product. Looking to get the word out there before we go ahead and run a national tv campaign. Need footprints to drive traffic to

thegolfingdolphin · Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 695

If you currently own the patent on the technology, Licensing would be your best way to go. If the Nano-Diamond Shield product is as fantastic as it seems to be and you own the patent, there really is nothing to think about.

All the wax companies will pick up the licensing, Window washing companies in large cities would want a piece of it. Car dealerships, Community developers, Gosh I could come up with many interested parties throughout the world.

CrystalViewChemicals · Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 10

We are definately targeting the main corprations with this product. It is brand new product and has only been available to the market for 3 months. It is currently in all Pep Boys locations, and working with Advance on it..Too pricey for the jobbers, but for consumers it is GREAT. Just looking to see if any power sellers might want to carry this product in their line

slythorne · Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 220

If you think eBay is the best way to promote this product, then you must be new to the car care scene. Your product has a very high cost too - there are many products out there that are similar at 1/4 the cost (Like Nu*Finish). Sure yours is better, but is it that much better?

Nu*Finish and many others got their start on the show car circuit, hocking their product out of a 10x10 gazebo, eventually generating enough interest to land an infomercial, before finally being accepted by the major retailers.

I just don't see eBay helping you out.. you need to get to the people who would be using your product instead of getting lost in a sea of similar items with a lower price on eBay.

I know you say it is too expensive for the "jobbers", but have you ever considered giving them free salesman samples?? Let them try out your stuff for free, and if they think it is as great as you do, maybe they will sell it to their customers.

CrystalViewChemicals · Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 10

I'm definately not new to the car scene. Ebay is always a good extra selling spot. Meguiars, Eagle One, Mothers etc are all sold from powersellers. I figured we could be too. We will be attending SEMA and AAPEX, but there is no other product out on the market like ours. Nu Finish is a good product but dosent compare to what ours can do. Ebay may not help out much, but atleast its still more exposure.

We are still working with other retailors, but I figured maybe some Ebay Sellers might want to possibly sell this product. Find me another product that on the box states it will Guarantee 1 year of the protection and appearance as ours does. No one on the shelves do, because they can not stand by their product. We are starting to get more and more interest and we are continuously developing new products which will be launched within a few months.

Thanks for the input though. Samples we do send out as well.

slythorne · Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 220

"Meguiars, Eagle One, Mothers etc are all sold from powersellers"

And all of them have existed since long before eBay. Eagle One has been strong in the market place since the mid 1980s, Mother's and Meguiar's were started about 100 years ago!

"Find me another product that on the box states it will Guarantee 1 year of the protection and appearance as ours does"

It isn't that they don't stand behind their products, they just have more of a grasp on the harsh environment that automotive finishes have to endure. I don't care how good you think your product is, if rocks can chip hardened paint, they can affect your protective coating and I am sure that wouldn't be covered by your guarantee.

There are already a few complaints about your headlight restorer on the internet, making your guarantees seem pretty much worthless anyways. True, most companies "1-year" guarantee is worthless as who keeps receipts for that long? And even if they did keep the receipts, how many receipts are even readable after that long?

thegolfingdolphin · Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 695

I have to agree with Donaldjr, I think you should be looking for licensing partners or investors. You seem to want to do all the marketing yourself, and that is a lot of hard work, and by offering it to a few sellers here is a weak way to broaden your appeal. One of the biggest problems you are going to have by using ebay sellers, is you will have little to no control how the seller represents your product. You will have no say in what the seller writes in the description, what price he may wish to sell it for, whether he groups it in with other products as a package, there is very little to gain from this approach.

If your item is all that you say it is and I trust that it is, the path you need to go is if you want to do the marketing is get some investors and do it the right way and do it now, there will be another product that will over take yours if you wait to long to get it rolling big time.

If you want to just let other companies license your product, then they will be doing all the work independently, and yet your item is out there is many avenues.

CrystalViewChemicals · Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 10

THe majority of complaints you see for our Headlight Restoration is from the people who have taken their car to Wal Mart Service Centers, since they utilize our kit. Their technicians could have done it improperly and we wont put the Lifetime warranty when it is not the consumer doing the job. If the instructions were followed correctly, which is why we have better reviews and ours is the preferred brand, there are no problems.

Directions are in the box for a reason..we have people who call and ask questions and we asked if they looked in the directions and they stated no...other than that we havent had bad reviews. It is the person who is doing the application which will base how the results come out.

I am not fighting with you in any way, but just stating that yes you are right meguiars and mothers have been around for a long time. We started the market in 2002 for headlight restoration.

We stand behind our products. I am not bashing meguiars, mothers, eagle one, or any other competitors, but we will start to grasp a leading edge shortly with our following products to come.

CrystalViewChemicals · Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 10

I am already in talks in avenues with our products...as I said we are in some major retailers already..we have been selling to walmart and advance auto parts for 6 years now. Precision auto tune utilizes our HLR. We are not looking to license. I am not the owner of the company, just sales. We should be in autozone here very shortly..also already in talks with Target, and also carried in Pep Boys. I am not the only one doing the work. We are starting to expand rapidly.