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Poll :: Will you try to be a Top rated seller in April t get Discount?

yes
20%
 20%  [ 3 ]
no
80%
 80%  [ 12 ]
Voted : 15
Total Votes : 15


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fruity
Total posts: 366

USA US Hawaii
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject:   #61 Back to top

I'm going to be a Top Rated FEE CIRCUMVENTOR. lol

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quicksrt
Total posts: 26

USA
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:54 pm Post subject:   #62 Back to top

fruity wrote (View Post): › I'm going to be a Top Rated FEE CIRCUMVENTOR. lol


I'm going to be one of those two!! Always cutting deals outside of ebay, always adding a tiny bit of shipping padding, always harvesting email addresses, and always agreeing to sell outside once buyer asks if anything else is available. Always agree to kill the auction and take payments outside of pp if posible. Always mention to be contacted with any and ALL questions, and that you will answer within a few hours time.

Never going for bold or supersize pix, laying off Buy In Now in most cases, and simply avoiding any little extras ebay wants to sell you.

Keep your costs very very low, and simply do not list too many items at once, just enough to attract cross-promotion of them. 25 to 30 items at very most. I like to stay around 10- to 20 at most.

These tips should keep fees resonable. Stay honest with your buyers, they will love you. Remember buyers are #1, the venue is not very important. And DSRs are not that big a deal if your items are really nice, and you answer questions quickly. That is the key, fast answers, speedy service, and quality goods.

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toyluvin-neonboy
Total posts: 24

USA US Minnesota
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:21 am Post subject: Warning ! SO When DO LOW DSR ratings really dissapear?? #63 Back to top

I have been chatting with our great evil big brother Ebay of late.
What about? When DSR ratings are actually removed from your performance ratints
It appears that after the 30 DAYS period. ALL LOW DSR's are not removed until the end of the month.
Even though the little note above your DSR rating window in your Dashboard says" updated daily."

Any Lawyers out there want to take this on one.

If you notice the words are there in the 90 day and annual review as well.

another great ebay invention to punish the seller.
ill publish more when I hear back with another response from India or wherever..

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DaLizardsLair
Location: Lake Orion, MI
Total posts: 4547

USA US Michigan
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:45 am Post subject:   #64 Back to top

DSRs officially are removed one year after they are given.

30-60-90 day windows are simply the length of time that eBay is currently assigning to whatever mad scheme they are devising to help them eliminate those sellers they feel the need to be free of.

Kind of reminds me of Stalin's purges, only with less organization.

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KPC
Total posts: 23

USA US Pennsylvania
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:02 am Post subject:  Re: DSR Ratings #65 Back to top

I've been working feverishly at updating my auctions before the April deadline where they are lowering the maximum allowable dsr rating from 3% to 1% for 1's & 2's.

I really wonder if eBay truly implements this new policy come April, are there going to be any sellers left.

think about it. 3% was the standard for a while.
0.5% was what top rated sellers must maintain.

Now, eBay reduced the DSR from 3% to 1% for ALL sellers, not just 'above average' sellers or 'top rated' sellers.

Supposedly come April, every seller on eBay must maintain this new 1% DSR.

I don't see how they are going to have any sellers remaining. The vast majority of sellers, I do not think come close to the 1% DSR. I never had a problem maintaining the 3% DSR. That seemed like a decently fair percentage that needed to be met.

But to expect that less than 1 out of every 100 customers all leave perfect DSR, is unrealistic.

Any customer who leaves a negative feedback, you bet is going to leave low DSR. Nobody leaving negative feedback is going to leave 5/5 for DSR.

ebay doesn't mandate that feedback is 99% or better, but they are going to mandate that DSR is 99% perfect (considering that you are allowed to have no more than 1% low DSR)

It just seems beyond screwed up.

I don't know if most people don't even realize this is coming, but I'm a little surprised there is not more buzz about this most recent 'policy change' coming up in April.

I'm losing sleep over it, because we run a family run business that makes nearly all of our income from eBay. (I mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread). And we are also working feverishly to try to list our products on other websites. My products have been on several of these other sites for several days now, and so far no sales.

I sell 30-60 items a day on eBay. So without out eBay sales, we are mega screwed financially.

I have at most a few months of survival in savings.

I'm so amazed that more people aren't really really worried about this new DSR policy change coming in April.

If it really takes place, I can't see how there are going to be any sellers left.

I heard that Google wanted to make their own version on eBay. Why do they not jump into the ring and knock eBay out. Ebay is falling apart and there are million even billions to be made in a powerful online marketplace.

Why doesn't Google throw together a team of designers and whip up a site like eBay and dominate the market. With a company as already powerful as Google, you'd think it wouldn't take much for them to dominate an auction website.

I know that I would have no problem paying the same fees that I'm paying to eBay, and transferring all of my items over to a Google auction website.

Just anything to get away from the devil that is eBay.


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KPC
Total posts: 23

USA US Pennsylvania
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:16 am Post subject:  Re: DSR Ratings #66 Back to top


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KPC
Total posts: 23

USA US Pennsylvania
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:24 am Post subject:  Re: DSR Ratings #67 Back to top

Read the 'FINE PRINT' at the bottom of the chart

it reads

If sellers exceed rates of 1s and 2s minimum requirements for All Sellers they will be demoted in search. If any seller severely exceeds the rates of 1s and 2s minimum requirements for All Sellers, they may be restricted from selling.


SOOOO... define 'severely exceeds' the rate of 1s and 2s.

I'm at 1.08%, right now, but I have went as high as 1.35% back at the end of last year for my 1s and 2s.

If after April, I were to have a bad month of buyers and my DSR jumps back up to around 1.35%, does that qualify as 'severely exceeding' their minimum requirements.

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quicksrt
Total posts: 26

USA
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:49 am Post subject:  Re: DSR Ratings #68 Back to top

How can ebay put me lower in the search when I am the only one with a new and still sealed copy of an item, AND my price is the lowest?

If I am the best match, have a unique item not seen as a best match, then how could they hide my item from a buyer who wants it?

If they are willing to do that than they are sliting their own throats.

I have quality items stored away for decades, and I like to pull a few out now and again just to get a bidding frenzy going and attract eyes to my other items. And if ebay does not want those items to show up loud and clear, they are fools. My DSRs went way south due to limited listings and one bad apple. And frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

I just have lost my ability to care about ebay.

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marketfly
Total posts: 8

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject:   #69 Back to top

Hey KPC

I am in the exact same boat as you. Everytime ebay makes these crazy changes I get panicky about it. I also need ebay to substain my income. In the past year I have expanded off of eBay to many other sites, but ebay still makes up at least 60% of my income. I have talked to other sellers who sell what I sell and they are all under 1% on the item description (usually around 1.3 or 1.4). I can't imagine ebay suspending all sellers that fall under this ridiculously high standard. No brick n mortar store in the world can maintain under a 1% dissatisfaction rate. It is nearly impossible. ebays dissatisfaction rate probably falls over 20% so its pretty ridiculous at what they hold there customers to. I am hoping that when they say falling way below 1%, they mean 3% or less. That would be fair to me. People that fall slightly under 1% get screwed by losing power seller status and only being able to subscribe to a basic store. This in turn means more money for ebay and they can blame the higher fees on us being bad sellers. To anyone over the 1% I highly recommending upgrading to a premium store now. Once you are premium even if you fall above the 1%, ebay will allow you to remain premium for 60 days to give you time to lower your bad dsr. This at least gives us 2 more months of the lower fixed price listings.

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DaLizardsLair
Location: Lake Orion, MI
Total posts: 4547

USA US Michigan
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject:   #70 Back to top

The biggest gripe I'd been hearing was that international buyers were killing US sellers DSRs.

So now, only the buyers from the US count, and sellers don't feel that they can maintain a dissatisfaction rate of 1% or less in describing the item?

Maybe it's time to start looking at diversifying your products to other websites. That way, you can get a foothold someplace else before eBay restricts or suspends you.

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OutWest4Less
Total posts: 1009

USA US Oregon
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject:  Re: DSR Ratings #71 Back to top

DSR's are by far the dumbest thing Evil-bay has come up with.

Makes no sense. Really Dumb.


And now the Top Seller program. Dumber yet.

What's next?

Dumb, Dumb and Dumb

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seewhatimsellingnow
Location: Ohio
Total posts: 453

USA US Ohio
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject:  Re: DSR Ratings #72 Back to top

and... what can Ebay sellers DO when members from Ola , or other sites, start purchasing from us JUST to leave negative feedbacks and to give us the lowest possible dsr scores? Apparently nothing. Ebay has given ALL buyers the ability to control our standing with Ebay- and to remain anonymous.

As most of you know- I have been involved in a 'squabble' with certain cliques on Ola, during the last 30 or so, days- In that time, I have received one totally nonsense negative feedback... and my DSR scores have dropped from 4.9 to 4.5 !!

You would THINK that Ebay could look at this dramatic drop , in scoring, and realize that SOMETHING is going on... But it's all perfectly legit !! An angry person, or persons, can do great harm to Ebay sellers. Your only 'hope' is that Ola members, when asked to do such a thing- MAY have a drop of conscience... and will refuse to join in.

Some of these buyers, appear to be very friendly- very pleased with their items and leave wonderful feedback, but then they can hide behind Ebay's ANONYMOUS scoring, on dsrs- and show their REAL evilness there... Betty Lou

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marketfly
Total posts: 8

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject:   #73 Back to top

The funny thing is my international DSRS are flawless. They are all at 0% and I sell alot internationally. I actually wish they did count them and I would probably be under 1% on my item as described.

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OutWest4Less
Total posts: 1009

USA US Oregon
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject:  Re: DSR Ratings #74 Back to top

International DSR's? At 1%? What does that mean?

Flawless?

Exactly what e-bay wants to hear.

Why don't you contact E-bay and let them know their scheme is working with you.

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pie4himm
Total posts: 153

USA US Missouri
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:57 pm Post subject:   #75 Back to top

marketfly wrote (View Post): › The funny thing is my international DSRS are flawless. They are all at 0% and I sell alot internationally. I actually wish they did count them and I would probably be under 1% on my item as described.

it sure is nice to see those steep seller fee discounts for you and me every month ain't it? that reimbursement helps the bottom line all it takes on the part of a seller is honesty

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