Jerryb gets this vision of being played by the guy under the bridge...

I lost count.

Rabbittown, if you wanted to turn this in to a promo for BZ then you should have started it in the BZ thread.

Jerryb wrote (View Post): › Jerryb gets this vision of being played by the guy under the bridge...

There was a lady from Blujay who did this here at PSU, she was pretending to be a man. Many fell for it for quite a while including myself!


northernstars I've honestly never felt the need or desire to interact, play games or chit-chat with anyone I've made a purchase from. I do talk via phone to many of my customers and that's great, I feel it gives them a sense of confidence knowing you are a real person who is willing to take the time to answer a few questions. Social selling is hyped IMO...people are looking for a product they make the purchase and go about their busy lives. Playing games to get a few orders here and there is not what I consider selling. People are going to have different opinions of course, but what I have works well for me.

Bottom line for me...Sales! If I felt like moving to another site would honestly bring in more $$ I would be all over it. But I refuse to pay a site then bring all the customers in on my own. Both EC and Bonz are doing well, it's not a competition it's about getting paid orders. There is no proof in the pudding that one site is kicking the others butt. I know the last time I did a comparison between the two, I would have ended up paying close to $100 in fees to Bonz.

Rabbit did the same thing in the "fence the border" thread.
http://www.powersellersunite.com/viewtopic.php?t=2708&highlight=

constant replying with his advice as gospel and such.

he started in on page 15 and went wild

He may actually make it to the first person I block on here

Sounds more like DRM all the time.

hotnana,

I don't find the need or desire either but it's nice to be able to communicate (ask and answer questions) in real time if both people are online.
If a seller has a live buyer and can help them right away, odds are good they'll convert it to a purchase.

So you interact with your customers too but use the phone instead. That works too. I've been known to call a few buyers myself.
That's really not much different, you're just using a different medium for it.

Regarding those weekly games some sellers use to kill time and get more eyes on their goods, I bet that less than half a percent of the 30K plus sellers participate in those (and some are more social events than anything) but they sure get a lot of repeat coverage here on PSU.
I assure you they aren't a requirement to get sales.

Sellers are always posting that most of their buyers come in directly from various search engines and some are happily reporting that those one-time buyers are now registered members, repeat customers and have FB showing that they've bought from other booths as well.

Isn't that every sellers goal? Doesn't matter what your level of social involvement is, getting those buyers to the site on a regular basis and into the shops is and if the site has shopper friendly features it certainly can't hurt.
BTW, that was my main point in my first post, allowing them to register, put up their own avatar and visit more often because they can be a community member.

Regarding outside promoting, I personally know a handful of ebay sellers that are now having to work at outside promoting of their items.
A few are buying google adwords and paying their ebay fees as well. Sad but true.
Promoting is not something that's exclusive to the alternative sites anymore.
Selling online has really changed in the last few years.

Bonz is doing some advertising and I think testing the results to see what works better. It's all on the site blog.

Northernstar, your points are not exclusive to BZ, tho. Lots of other sites have the live chat, google analytics and several other of the same services.

@Norernstars

You make a very good point about the social aspect of Bonanzle. Indeed I am sure that I read that it was the social aspect of Bonanzle that appealed to the Seattle investors.

At the moment all they do is pop into my booth (store) and say I have got some nice items. But they don't buy. But then a couple of people have said they would like to, but they are short of cash.

As you say with ecrater there is no reaction at all. Just items views and hopefully a sale.

Talking about Social Shopping how come no one ever mentions Kaboodle on this site!

I believe they are very popular.

In regards to the chat window, I also have many who pop in and give compliments on my items which is nice that they took the time to say that. It's also nice to be able to say 'hi' to members who have become online friends.

When a new buyer checks out a booth, they can read all the complimentary posts, and that's a good thing. But, I think it's probably rare that a new 'non-member' buyer joins in on a conversation.

But, it wouldn't bother me one bit if I never rec'd those comments. Those are from other sellers, in other words, people who are already a part of the site. I want "fresh blood", new buyers that saw my items in google and clicked for a better view. The new people are ones that we very rarely know about. I'd rather they take their time looking at my items.

And while it's true that sellers will 'chat' with other sellers, which at times will lead to a purchase, out of several hundred sales I believe only 2 of them were to other sellers.

this is pretty rediculous some of these comments

again this was all about the surprise in seeing the transaction numbers of bonz being twice as much as ecrater..

then so many of you started making every excuse in the book why that don't matter or is not correct.. clearly there are agendas going on with some of these posters NOT me..

and some accusing me of being someone else..

now get this... is it normal or NOT to see double transactions numbers in favor of bonz over ecrater.. when bonz is just 2 yrs old... is it normal to get REAL hope for a real alt coming seeing that..

and IF a seller don't get real hope from seeing that.. then something ELSE is going on like a biased agenda.. and there are several clear cut biased posts in here with that..

and one talking about my posting about fence the border... well if you don't see the imprtance of that then that may be the reason why you can't see the importance of a site growing strong and making good money and about to start advertizing

what does it mean to jump in front of the lines like illegal immigrants does over legal immigrants who have to wait longer to come IN???? jumping in front of the line is people who can't understand how to do or get things correctly and that is why their voting in mexico has elected crooks to enslave.. so with that mind set when they vote here what do you think they will do???? the VERY same thing elect crooks to harm us all.

bring in the legal immigrants waiting in line instead .. they will vote more against crooks than these illegals who has the record in mexico

america is becoming a third world country quickly

so people who think i'm obessed like its negative BETTER think again

2 things .. bonanzle is showing GREAT hope for sellers to become a real alternative to the bay which is just what sellers want and need unless there are other agendas and the illegal immigration and maybe amnesty is showing the opposite great hope for america becoming a third world country .. obsessed?? like its negative to be obsessed with stopping misery and pain??

digman the investor wants a good return for his money

his only interest is what will give him the most money which is more sales for the sellers.. it just so happens he thinks the social aspect is a brainstorm that will work greatly in getting these many sales

so lets not muddy the waters he is not investing in the site for a chat site.. it is a site to make sales

somone says i'm obsessed no just reacting to some things that can truly be misleading...

and some of these posts are showing deciet type stuff like with putting up the worth of each site ecrater and bonanzle... like bonanzle is worth only half a million... the one million put in would be part of the net worth JUST THAT

and not speaking of that million plus the commision fees and the subscriptions NOT being tallied speaks volumns of trying to decieve.

then some of these same biased posters says I'M obessed.. yet they did not speak how that post of the value was so far from the truth its redicilous... them not doing that speaks of biases clearly.

and how can sellers FIND the best site with so much tricks being used by biased posters??..

actually I think we may have found why bonanzle is gaining much faster than any other site in transaction numbers.. buyers NEED to feel safe in buying online that LIVE chat will do JUST that... so now we can see why the alot more conversion into sales than ecrater


this live chat has been started by bonanzle and others are trying to copy BUT this is showing bonanzle has the thinking of making the BEST for sales than others and the others just copy cause they cannot THINK of the better ways like bonanzle can.... that will also show how the future will unfold.

no question in my mind NOW that bonanzle by far has the BEST chance

NOW i see WHY bonanzle is advancing so fast and having much more transactions numbers.. again the answer is buyers FEEL more safe with bonanzle and knowing they were the first with live chat and not a copy cat will keep them going to bonanzle and not the copy cats..

so at least the puzzle i had with so much more transactions than ecrater the REASON for this is now solved in my mind... and the puzzle about some of these posters has been solved in my mind... it was just shocking to see out and out misleading here

and the one that misled with the incorrect value of the sites which is so easily to see is totally bogus.. went further and said.. that shes sees no value in chatting with customers and then in the next breath says she uses the phone and that makes them feel better to purcahse well that live chat is the VERY SAME THINg.. so clear a strong biase going on with that.. she criticizes as no value the live chat like bonanzle has invented and then says phone calls HELPS to convert sales.. so WOW what can anyone say to that ??

then someone says hey many sites have live chats?? but did they say which one had it first and which ones copied?? i think bonanzle had it first and others copied which shows bonanzle with the thinking to make a great site the others just copies

but for me at least the puzzle is solved...

THOSE double transactions over ecrater is because buyers feel more safe and the live chat which is like a phone call is a big part of this.. and these misleading posts in MY opinion are biased people so the puzzle is soved in my mind with all this and i do see bonanzle building and with their war chest advertizing and then separating far and fast from the rest of the sites

for example about the copiers sure looks like ecrater has copied some of bonz;s stuff and looks like atomicmall has copied the live chat thing.. didn't bonanzle have the live chat thing before atomicmall??

and with these sites compete.com shows... ecrater has lost 22% of its traffic over a yr... bonanzle has gained 68% and atomicmall has lost 33% of its traffic over a yrs time..

so just about all the ways one can look at evidence and data it is showing bonanzle separating upwards from the rest this before they start their big advertizing with that war chest with all those paid subscriptions and commision fees and million dollar investment

all this is the way i see this.. which means what???

Talking to yourself now that the cat's out of the bag?

well i for one went over and closed my listings out at bonanzle..NADA .. all gone.. bye bye.. account closed. not that it matters.. no looker, no viewers, no sales

if you have ANYTHING to do with bonanzle (i reallydoubt it) then i want nothing to do with them. so see you plan is working great. Keep up the good work.. your PR method is fantastic

PS - keep talking to yourself

Rabbittown... your talking to yourself now. You are the first person I have put on Ignore.

An interesting topic destroyed.

About the $1M founding for Bonz is the 1rst time I read about it. I was reading some news about it in Internet. It is good for Bonz getting the founding, but for me founding means I want to get $$$ back.

I know that all these sale site are a business. But it is always so ironic see some people calling themselves an "alternative" when they really want to be the next on top.