angelsong..... this may be the THING.... if one does analyze with an open mind about wp it does look like it has the BEST chance to really grow big... first and formost buyers will love it.. 2nd is the site will get the ebay buyers more than ANY site since it looks similar but less clutterred and more free and easy and prettier ... so these 2 factors are HUGE... some may REALLY know this and they are afraid it will build and they are attacking because of this GREAT POTENTIAL.

angelsong this may be the real reason for all these going from one forum to another attacking wp living their whole life doing that..... its easy to see!!! sad that some of the regulars here cannot see that .. but many regulars also live on forums and they become like friends with forum people elsewhere and then when tt does their horrible stuff they overlook and are hypocritical in their actions and talk

angelson this is what is going on.. i think you are alittle new to all this backstabbing and ecommerce business

yes they changed to a monthly report .. but their reports had shown a couple weeks of less sales so it does look honest... doing this once a month may be a time saver ... that will work too in judging sales and judging the direction... yes all sales went down after the christmas season went.. so that is normal the sales drop there... but i've been seeing some feedback now at wp showing some staring back up selling..... like i said buyers love this site there will be no other site that will get as high percent of return buyers as this site..

many competitors may KNOW what this is and are trying to saboatogue going everywhere being negative..

wp owners and the site admins are NO different than any online site trying to make money ... wp owners are no more crooked as google or any other site.. they all will TRY like heck to get as much as they can... the thing is this... once ebay has a competitor this being a competitor will make BOTH do sellers righ both crooked companies will HAVE to do sellers right

google is the same as wp and ray... ioffer.... all of them the SAME.. the difference in wp they have a site set up that buyers will love and has the best chance to be the competitor THIS is bringing all theis sabatogue from others who do not want them as THE competitor!!

its all about money most of the non stop negative posts on wp.. its sabatougue.. but that is what goes on when trying to hurt ones competitor


WAKEP UP REGULARS!

Kabloink wrote (View Post): › saturn wrote (View Post): › the sales as already began to snowball... the last week of sales reports was 2100 sales which had tripled in 3 months ... and this with stores closing ... also this site has the fees where sellers will be more likely to be mega sellers not small sellers... UNLIMITED listings for a certain price does this... so as stores has left items has increased so buyers are still growing and growing with both the feeling and with more items... Actually, that sales figure was for the middle of December. WP has not updated the sales for the last couple of weeks after suddenly changing to a monthly sales report. Which may be a good thing for WP since the traffic has plummeted over the last few weeks. Thats usually not a good thing for sales. By the way, the whole feeling thing comes across as a little creepy.

Latest STR at WP:

http://www.wagglepop.com/bin/Accessory/sales-reports

saturn wrote (View Post): › angelsong..... this may be the THING.... if one does analyze with an open mind about wp it does look like it has the BEST chance to really grow big... first and formost buyers will love it.. 2nd is the site will get the ebay buyers more than ANY site since it looks similar but less clutterred and more free and easy and prettier ... so these 2 factors are HUGE... some may REALLY know this and they are afraid it will build and they are attacking because of this GREAT POTENTIAL. angelsong this may be the real reason for all these going from one forum to another attacking wp living their whole life doing that..... its easy to see!!! sad that some of the regulars here cannot see that .. but many regulars also live on forums and they become like friends with forum people elsewhere and then when tt does their horrible stuff they overlook and are hypocritical in their actions and talk angelson this is what is going on.. i think you are alittle new to all this backstabbing and ecommerce business

Yes, I'm new to all of this backstabbing of brand new auction sites and I'm very surprised at all of the opposition to Wagglepop since I'm there and know how much I enjoy it. New or not though, I'm a very fast learner and I know just exactly what some people are up to.

also this reporting of sales SPEAKS VOLUMNS.

i was watching it week by week to understand.... and saw about 3 weeks where the sales dropped.... what does that mean?? it means he is not hiding the BAD....

why is he brave enough to make a sales report like this.. he KNOWS how much buyers will love this site and showing real sales will WORK for him cause its easy to see how buyers will repeat....

so this was the thing i was focsing on to see the owners approach he knows this is a great site and will build so he is not afraid to have a monthly sales report so all people WILL KNOW and then that will bring the EXPLOSION.. some competitors are seeing this and trying to sabatogue...

yep angel song i may have got you confused with me talking down about what some regulars are doing.. and i told you to look at johnsresale post to see what all WOULD be saying if they were not being swayed by wanting to be friends of ALL.. some who say they speak truth do not cause of the people are part of their clique

Okay, I've been listening to people talk about the exodus of stores from
WP as a sign that the end is nigh. Figured I'd put my 2¢ in on this topic...

First of all, not only does the drop off in numbers not surprise me, I fully
expected it would happen. What's more, I fully expect the store number
to fall much farther before long.

The dramatic rise in the number of stores happened with the fee-hike
announcement over at Ebay. Surfing the forums over there during the
commotion surrounding the fee-hike I saw a lot of people talking about
WP and many saying they were going to give it a try.

Back then I thought to myself that there were probably going to be very
few Ebay sellers, especially ones who had relied solely on Ebay for a
selling venue over the last 5 to 7 years, who were going to be prepared
to do what it took to make a go of a store at WP. I'm *not* saying all
were, but the majority who had grown up in the mentality of post your
wares and then just sit back and wait for the buyers to come. Those
sellers who had never had to work at promoting themselves actively and
had never worked at selling through any other venue except Ebay were
in for an unpleasant surprise. I knew it, but people were frantic to find
some other place to try, some way to demonstrate their contempt with
Ebay.

So people poured in and set up shop at WP. After a few months of zero
to meager sales they were going to pack up shop and try something else
or drift back to Ebay again. This is pretty much what I figured would take
place.

In many cases I think this exodus of WP stores is that very scenario playing
itself out (again, not all departing stores are for this reason, but think the
vast majority of them are).

Even now, looking over the stores listing last night, I see where there are
likely going to be a lot more stores being shuttered very soon. Of 466
stores that are currently listed, 128 stores have have 12 or fewer items
listed for sale. Now, while if it's a shop offering some high ticket items, it
might make sense to have a store for $9.95 a month where the postings
can relist themselves at no charge if they don't sell the first time around,
by and large I would think these stores are probably going to be exiting
soon. Oh, and of that 128 stores half of them have 5 items or less posted.

Does this bother or concern me from the standpoint of my own store's
health and well being? No, not really. As I said, I expected there would
be an influx and an exodus and it's coming to pass. Not everyone who
signed up for a store in the heat of the Ebay induced frenzy about their
fee-hikes were going to be suited to making it at WP.

If all 128 stores I'm talking about vanished right now, and that's more
than one-fourth of the total number of stores, the drop in total number of
items listed on WP is a whole 786.... that's not even one third the number
of items I have posted in my own store at the moment.

Logically, I don't see the number of stores on WP as being any kind of
important yardstick as to potential success there. Like I've said repeatedly,
any alternative auction sites from Ebay are going to take a very different
approach by the seller who wants to make a go of it. I fully expected
months ago there would be many ex-Ebay sellers who would try WP and
abandon it after a few months, so none of this comes as a surprise.

--Gael
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GAELICTITCA wrote (View Post): › Okay, I've been listening to people talk about the exodus of stores from WP as a sign that the end is nigh. Figured I'd put my 2¢ in on this topic... First of all, not only does the drop off in numbers not surprise me, I fully expected it would happen. What's more, I fully expect the store number to fall much farther before long. The dramatic rise in the number of stores happened with the fee-hike announcement over at Ebay. Surfing the forums over there during the commotion surrounding the fee-hike I saw a lot of people talking about WP and many saying they were going to give it a try. Back then I thought to myself that there were probably going to be very few Ebay sellers, especially ones who had relied solely on Ebay for a selling venue over the last 5 to 7 years, who were going to be prepared to do what it took to make a go of a store at WP. I'm *not* saying all were, but the majority who had grown up in the mentality of post your wares and then just sit back and wait for the buyers to come. Those sellers who had never had to work at promoting themselves actively and had never worked at selling through any other venue except Ebay were in for an unpleasant surprise. I knew it, but people were frantic to find some other place to try, some way to demonstrate their contempt with Ebay. So people poured in and set up shop at WP. After a few months of zero to meager sales they were going to pack up shop and try something else or drift back to Ebay again. This is pretty much what I figured would take place. In many cases I think this exodus of WP stores is that very scenario playing itself out (again, not all departing stores are for this reason, but think the vast majority of them are). Even now, looking over the stores listing last night, I see where there are likely going to be a lot more stores being shuttered very soon. Of 466 stores that are currently listed, 128 stores have have 12 or fewer items listed for sale. Now, while if it's a shop offering some high ticket items, it might make sense to have a store for $9.95 a month where the postings can relist themselves at no charge if they don't sell the first time around, by and large I would think these stores are probably going to be exiting soon. Oh, and of that 128 stores half of them have 5 items or less posted. Does this bother or concern me from the standpoint of my own store's health and well being? No, not really. As I said, I expected there would be an influx and an exodus and it's coming to pass. Not everyone who signed up for a store in the heat of the Ebay induced frenzy about their fee-hikes were going to be suited to making it at WP. If all 128 stores I'm talking about vanished right now, and that's more than one-fourth of the total number of stores, the drop in total number of items listed on WP is a whole 786.... that's not even one third the number of items I have posted in my own store at the moment. Logically, I don't see the number of stores on WP as being any kind of important yardstick as to potential success there. Like I've said repeatedly, any alternative auction sites from Ebay are going to take a very different approach by the seller who wants to make a go of it. I fully expected months ago there would be many ex-Ebay sellers who would try WP and abandon it after a few months, so none of this comes as a surprise. --Gael ________________________________________________

Now see, this is the difference between Gael and I. He knew exactly what was going to happen with sellers coming and going. On the other hand, I was sitting here thinking, "People are CLOSING their stores ALREADY??? WHAT THE HECK?!?!?! WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING WHEN THEY OPENED THEIR STORES???" I saw people posting on the Wagglepop forums saying that they were closing because of no sales when they had as few as 9 items listed for as short a time period as 2 weeks, and some of them only ever used the store inventory format when they could have been getting far more exposure for no additional cost! Then those very same people are posting all over the internet that they had a Wagglepop store for 6 months and never had a sale and the owner's ripping everyone off and blah blah blah.........

angelsong ya got to work on learning to know when someone works hard to look smart and what that MEANS.... i tried to show you the difference with johnsresale post.....

all forums have many people with a need to be seen smart and get respect and attention... these types flock to forums,, my stuff can be alittle hard to see that i'm not doing this also...... the clue is i did show the hero.... these who needs it for themselves they don't do that... they keep working on looking smart... they practice over and over again until it is smooth but that in itself is DUMB to use up their time on that..

angelsong johns resale supported the truth and the real ISSUE and supported your very problem... you sghould see him as the hero here...gael is avoiding the real issue about how people are trying to sabatougue in order to be popular to as many as he can..... am i doing the same thing trying to look smart trying to be the hero.... there are clues to know that too... but for certain every single word johnsresale said was nothing but pure honesty and wisdon without a need to be liked or to be popular........

why am i on you angelsong?? cause i;ve seen so many females get fooled and lose their real hero for something that is false..

ask who spoke about the reasons why wagglepop will work way back in summer and got jumped on by even gael and all the others and was banned... johnsresale has courage he said that he was disappointed with this site the way it does waggelpop and said tt was worse.. this is totally accurate.. and you saw how mojac called poppers a cult EXCEPT for gael..... this is the proof of the stuff gael has done in the past against the real speakers of the truth on wp.... now gael pretends he is the wagglepop person.. when he was part of the being dumb and not understanding what the first guy was telling about the REASONS why it will work...

but this is how forums works just understand .. johnsresale is your hero even if you don't know it

And everyone is just supoosed to follow a self ordained messiah like yourself?

natural laws govern everything and every change knowing these laws one can apply and make anything happen..

mojav you were told the natural law of how people will not like a site with a bid name and auction name.. also told how overstock cannot work all because of natural laws.... same and told about how wagglepop had the best chance.. again just natural laws..


i can see what TYPE people are very easily and i try to get people to understand the clues to know who is who...

and remember angelsong i said that the poppers were real heros for working there with the normal start up of few sales .. i said a good time for others to jump in and start getting real profits would be around feb like i'm doing..

BUT i said to SALUTE the brave poppers who went in when few sales and worked it...... gael is not like the tt people but he is not what you THINK.. but johnsresale IS!!! i've seen you jump to the wrong conclusions a couple of times the same thing many females do and LOSE their REAL hero for a false thing...

i've always said how wagglepop would work how it would grow... and did tell how at first will not be profits... its the best site for a buyer to enjoy and this will slowly build it to a POINT when this point is reached there will be a stampede of sales and then more sellers and more sales and more sellers will happen at warp speed AFTER a certain point is reached maybe in 6 months to 9 months

water turns into ice when applying the freezing point..... knowing the natural law here will let one make ice every single TIME... same thing with every thing and every feeling EVERY change..

i can predict cause of knowing how natural laws WORK... that means preductions in every single part of the system of life cause its all governed by natural laws.... every type of thought that humanity CAN think produces a CERTAIN RESULT !!... many actors are now understanding this....they can use the natural laws to make the audience feel any feeling THEY want ....

angelsong your hero is johnsresale and all sellers hero are the poppers who were beat up by people like gael earlier .. gael stated earlier its not a good site for selling .. his client made him sale there as he told it... again gael is not like the tt people BUT he also is nothing like johnsresales!!

Oh man, I'm SO in the wrong forum, but I had to comment on this one:

"i've seen you jump to the wrong conclusions a couple of times the same thing many females do"

I KNOW you didn't go there! There are a lot of females on this board, you're treading in shark infested waters with crap like that...

Good grief, enough is enough!

i come thru from time to time .... hopefully to see progress.....

also there are issues that are the BEST to watch close on in order to KNOW who people are... the wagglepop issue is one of these issues..... the responses will searate each ones TYPE and the wisdom types also...... it is best for ALL lower wisdom falks without the detective ability to follow these that prove they have that ability

stockmizer and johnsresale shows alot.. read back to stockmizers post he used his time on the most important issue here at psu

ALWAYS beleive prohets.. they know the natural laws better than anyone and their predictions will be most correct!!